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		<title>The great CMS debate meets face to face</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jen Reeves</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love to talk about content management systems (CMS) because they are wonderful tools to help you communicate. But CMS is kind of like a hat. You like using it because it helps you. But everyone likes a different style. There are all kinds of styles of CMS. Many businesses use one to manage the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love to talk about content management systems (CMS) because they are wonderful tools to help you communicate. But CMS is kind of like a hat. You like using it because it helps you. But everyone likes a different style. There are all kinds of styles of CMS. Many businesses use one to manage the workflow of information needed online. There are so many types but a specific type of out-of-the-box CMS that is worth talking about is open source. Open source means the code behind how the CMS is built is open to everyone. If you understand the code, you can build it on your own and talk to the online community about what works, what doesn&#8217;t work and help change the CMS for the greater good of its users. There are three major ones: <a href="http://www.joomla.org/" target="_blank">Joomla!</a>, <a href="http://www.drupal.org" target="_blank">Drupal</a> and <a href="http://www.wordpress.org" target="_blank">WordPress</a> (this blog is written in WordPress).</p>
<p>In an <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Chef" target="_blank">Iron Chef</a>-like match up, a team of developers from each CMS had 100 hours to build a website based on a specific list of specifications and design. Then representatives of each team would appear face to face to show off their hard work during the <a href="http://www.sxsw.com/interactive" target="_blank">South by Southwest Interactive festival</a>. I had the chance to attend the face off and found it to be very fun to watch.</p>
<p>It was a battle to the end. With a mix of good humor and serious competition, leaders from Joomla!, Drupal and WordPress met face to face during a Monday session called &#8220;The Ultimate Showdown of Content Management System Destiny&#8221; at South by Southwest. The panelists included <a href="http://sxsw.com/interactive/talks/panels?action=bio&amp;id=202545"><strong><span class="fn"><span style="font-weight: normal;">Steve Fisher</span></span></strong></a> (Joomla!), <a href="http://sxsw.com/interactive/talks/panels?action=bio&amp;id=167579">Colleen Carroll</a> (Drupal), and <a href="http://sxsw.com/interactive/talks/panels?action=bio&amp;id=138161">Matt Mullenweg</a> (WordPress) and led by <a href="http://sxsw.com/interactive/talks/panels?action=bio&amp;id=166282" target="_blank">George DeMet</a> of <a class="external" href="http://palantir.net/">Palantir.net</a>. The room was packed full of CMS fans, with a heavy emphasis on WordPress. You could hear a small group of men chanting for their favorite CMS before the event got underway. The mood was festive but there was an air of competition brewing as each person threw CMS taunts at each other.</p>
<p>DeMet came up with the idea and explained how each team of developers were given the task to build a website for a community leadership program in Elgin, Illinois. The developers were asked to use a number of web-based social networking and collaboration tools. The end goal is to build websites that are general enough to be able to be downloaded by organizations and communities to meet their needs. All of the specifications are listed on <a href="http://www.palantir.net/blog/ultimate-showdown-underway" target="_blank">Palantir.net&#8217;s blog</a> or available <a class="external" href="http://www.palantir.net/sxsw/sxsw_spec_final.pdf" target="_blank">in a PDF format</a>. The teams were also expected to stay true to a site design created by Mark Boulton who is well-known for his web design and book, &#8220;<a class="external" href="http://www.fivesimplesteps.co.uk/">Five Simple Steps: A Practical Guide to Designing for the Web</a>&#8220;. Developers could only use freely-available software to build the sites and function on a shared hosting space (Linux/Apache/MySQL).</p>
<p>A lot of time was spent talking about how the teams worked together on the site creation and the effort it took to build the sites. The Joomla! team never met face-to-face. Developers spanned across the globe and spent most time talking over Skype or conference calls. The Drupal team started with a face-to-face sprint to get the site started and then they worked together to finish the rest of the work. You can follow how Mullenweg&#8217;s WordPress team completed their tasks by visiting  <a href="http://wpshowdown.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">a site</a> they built to keep up with the project. Here is a comparison of how the sites came together under deadline:</p>
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<td><span class="style1">Drupal</span></td>
<td><span class="style1">Joomla!</span></td>
<td><span class="style1">WordPress</span></td>
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<td><span class="style1">Total Hours</span></td>
<td><span class="style1">79.25</span></td>
<td><span class="style1">57.25</span></td>
<td><span class="style1">90.5</span></td>
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<td><span class="style1">Hours spent <br />
    on front end</span></td>
<td><span class="style1">21.75</span></td>
<td><span class="style1">15</span></td>
<td><span class="style1">36.5</span></td>
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<td><span class="style1">HTML Validation</span></td>
<td><span class="style1">No <br />
    (8 errors)</span></td>
<td><span class="style1">Yes</span></td>
<td><span class="style1">No (8 errors)</span></td>
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<td><span class="style1">CSS Validation</span></td>
<td><span class="style1">No (7 errors)</span></td>
<td><span class="style1">No <br />
    (1 error)</span></td>
<td><span class="style1">No (21 errors)</span></td>
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<td><span class="style1">Page weight</span></td>
<td><span class="style1">180K</span></td>
<td><span class="style1">140K</span></td>
<td><span class="style1">154K</span></td>
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<td><span class="style1">Lines of custom PHP/JS code</span></td>
<td><span class="style1">220</span></td>
<td><span class="style1">30</span></td>
<td><span class="style1">1,808</span></td>
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<p>DeMet mentioned how most validation errors were minor. But Carroll said the Drupal Community learned a lot from the discovery of those errors and they were able to put in a number of new patches to help improve the overall CMS. Mullenweg and Fischer said this project helped in similar ways. Mullenweg talked about how his team had a great time outside of the development by adding <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0196229/" target="_blank">Zoolander</a>-related content. The added fun was not a requirement. The Drupal and Joomla! teams added filler to populate their sites.</p>
<p>The crowd seemed pretty disappointed when it became clear there would be no live demonstrations of the websites. All of the sites can be viewed from the <a href="http://www.cmsshowdown.com" target="_blank">Ultimate Showdown of Content Management System Destiny website</a>. They did get to hear reactions from Boulton and Senior Program Officer Marybeth Schroeder from the <a href="http://evcommfdn.org/home.html" target="_blank">Evanston Community Foundation</a>. DeMet had worked with the organization before and used its needs to launch the competition in the first place. The crowd enjoyed watching her reaction as she looked through each versions of the website. Schroeder had no CMS preference before looking at the sites, a perspective that was not easy to find in the SXSW session. There was an attempt to record how she used each site. In one screen capture video, you could see her trying to figure out the WordPress dashboard. In the case of the Joomla! site, Schroeder had a hard time adding a location for an event.</p>
<p>From the designer perspective, Boulton said he favored the WordPress and Drupal sites for how they stayed true to his design. He gave Joomla! a hit for not following all of his typography. Fisher countered that they made that decision because the Joomla! team didn&#8217;t like it. Boulton did not say anything specifically about the usefulness or user experience of the sites.</p>
<p>In what was expected to be a dramatic end to the competition, DeMet asked the crowd to vote on who should win. Many people yelled out how they felt they did not have enough knowledge of the sites to pick. Others yelled out the CMS they already supported. That indecisiveness let to a draw. DeMet announced all three CMS won and tried to figure out a way to share the belt-buckle award.</p>
<p>There may be no defined answer on what is the best open source CMS. It was clear this project helped motivate the open source communities to team together and come up with products that can help non-profits launch a website that meets their needs. Each development team will make their work available for anyone to use. The Joomla! and WordPress teams even created help videos on the <a href="http://www.cmsshowdown.com" target="_blank">showdown website</a>. The event at SXSW was also a great way to talk about CMS and get open source products more play among a large and growing population of tech-minded people who are looking for a new way to share information online.</p>
<p>DeMet plans to talk about the showdown again in April at a <a href="http://www.cmsexpo.net/pre-conf-sessions/284-ultimate-cms-showdown.html" target="_blank">pre-conference event</a> for the CMS Expo in Evanston, Illinois.</p>
<p>A couple of fun things came out during this session. First, the <a href="http://www.viddler.com/explore/devinreams/videos/2/" target="_blank">WordPress song</a> is TOO funny. Also, you can enjoy this <a href="http://www.lullabot.com/audiocast/the_drupal_song" target="_blank">Drupal song</a>. There was a Joomla! song but I can&#8217;t find it online, plus it&#8217;s instrumental and a bit boring compared to the other two!</p>
<p>(You can see a similar version of this post at <a href="http://www.cmswire.com/cms/web-cms/sxsw-web-content-management-system-showdown-update-2-004124.php" target="_blank">CMSwire.com</a>)
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		<title>Agile talk</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 03:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jen Reeves</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a mind that is full of agile development&#8230; and skills that take weeks if not months to launch. So as I struggle to find ways to bring traditional newsrooms to work together&#8230; I struggle with what content management system to use or some kind of way to bring content together in an agile [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a mind that is full of agile development&#8230; and skills that take weeks if not months to launch.</p>
<p>So as I struggle to find ways to bring traditional newsrooms to work together&#8230; I struggle with what content management system to use or some kind of way to bring content together in an agile way.</p>
<p>SO&#8230; How should we do this? Drupal, WordPress, Django, Joomla, something that doesn&#8217;t exist yet?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the other big question. What is our priority as traditional journalism stalls out? Is our priority to become famous for figuring it all out&#8230; or is our priority to work together so we actually figure out doable solutions? I honestly want to find doable solutions for the good of our industry. Is anyone else out there who wants to join with me? We may not have our names printed all over the universe, but good journalism will survive.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m okay with that. Is anyone else game?
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		<title>Content Management and Meetups</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jen Reeves</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I get deeper into the fun of DrupalCon, I realize I should start a talk about content management systems. A small one broke out on my Facebook page yesterday when my brother-in-law talked about how his newsroom (The Sporting News) is having a challenging time moving content into Drupal. I think almost all newsrooms [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I get deeper into the fun of <a href="http://www.drupalcon.org" target="_blank">DrupalCon</a>, I realize I should start a talk about content management systems. A small one broke out on my Facebook page yesterday when my brother-in-law talked about how his newsroom (<a href="http://www.sportingnews.com/" target="_blank">The Sporting News</a>) is having a challenging time moving content into <a href="http://www.drupal.org" target="_blank">Drupa</a>l. I think almost all newsrooms are having that kind of problem. CMS is a pretty young tool. Four years ago when my newsroom moved to a CMS instead of <a href="http://www.adobe.com/products/dreamweaver/" target="_blank">Dreamweaver</a> we didn&#8217;t think beyond the fact that our life would be so much better in a CMS environment. We didn&#8217;t think we&#8217;d want or need to move CMS later down the line. So we didn&#8217;t think about what it would take to move all of the content from our current CMS and move it into a new one. Well&#8230; It&#8217;s going to be miserable. And now that I&#8217;m on the hunt for a new CMS (we aren&#8217;t spending any money on one yet, I just want to know and be ready the moment it makes it onto a budget line), I am more concerned about the ease it takes to move away from the CMS. That&#8217;s another reason why I like Drupal. Once the content is in there, you can manipulate and port the information really well. I think that&#8217;s the wonderful thing about open source products.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to hear what other folks think about CMS and portability.</p>
<p>Also &#8211; Since I&#8217;m in DC, I&#8217;m setting up an impromptu gathering for Mizzou alumni and any of my Twitter/blog followers if they&#8217;re interested:<br />
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<p>It would be great to hang out, enjoy a beer in a hipster kind of place.
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		<title>Media and Drupal workflow</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 04:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jen Reeves</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I got to sit in a session where we&#8217;re learned about how newsrooms are using Drupal in varying ways. In a discussion called &#8220;Drupal in the Newsroom,&#8221; representatives from NY Observer (Tom McGeveran), Mother Jones (Nick Aster), and a representative from The McClatchy Company (I&#8217;m working on the name since I ran out of batteries [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got to sit in a session where we&#8217;re learned about how newsrooms are using <a href="http://www.drupal.org" target="_blank">Drupal</a> in varying ways.  In a discussion called &#8220;Drupal in the Newsroom,&#8221; representatives from <a href="http://www.observer.com/" target="_blank">NY Observer</a> (<a href="http://www.observer.com/author/tom-mcgeveran/" target="_blank">Tom McGeveran</a>), <a href="http://www.motherjones.com/" target="_blank">Mother Jones (<a href="http://twitter.com/nickaster" target="_blank">Nick Aster</a>), and a representative from The McClatchy Company (I&#8217;m working on the name since I ran out of batteries and was scrambling for a plug when everyone was getting introduced) joined in a panel discussion.</p>
<p>McGerevan said the New York Observer takes a lot of the essential elements of Drupal and uses them in the newsroom. The newsroom operates in a way where most things are published to the web and then changed, improved, repackaged and put into the print publication. He says the news product more native to the web in its workflow. But they haven&#8217;t built any custom workflow into the CMS. They have customized Drupal for editorial needs. They found templates and ways to package content to do the things they need. In their recent relaunch of the <a href="http://www.observer.com/" target="_blank">site</a>, they have editors applying a weight to a story. That determines how much prominence it has on the site. No more scheduling of the story items. It&#8217;s a thought process that is more web native. I really like that!</p>
<p>McClatchy&#8217;s workflow is rapidly developing. When they first started experimenting with the CMS, they were looking at standalone builds. They saw a lot of instances where affiliate IT departments were using Drupal as a back end or adding widget items into existing CMS. The Drupal commenting system is the only thing they would use it for. But as McClatchy newsrooms gain more knowledge, they&#8217;re using it more. Some newsrooms want to use it as a primary data entry site to feed the content into their core CMS and eventually use it to the print product.</p>
<p>Aster said Mother Jones used to consider itself as a magazine that happens to have a website. Now they&#8217;re working with the belief that they&#8217;re a 24 hour news agency. That thought process started changing when they introduced blogs two years ago. The web-focused workflow is more relaxed and once people realized that is a better process, the use of Drupal was welcomed. This process also created a less complex approval and permissions process to get articles and blogs published to the site.</p>
<p>The first thing that came to my mind was whether the newsrooms are working on any Agile development concepts using Drupal. Apparently McClatchy used Drupal to build a mom community in only a week and a half! I think that&#8217;s amazing. If I was able to build a functioning community site in that short amount of time, I could have four or five test projects running! Okay. Maybe three.</p>
<p>It was interesting to see where the conversations were going with the session. There was more culture talk and workflow talk than an actual discussion in how Drupal functions. I kind of really wanted to talk about Drupal functions. But the discussion turned to how did the newsrooms change culturally to become web-focused. The one thing that stood out from all three men was how all three newsrooms have an open source environment. They all said it made sense to work with an open source product. That was so great to hear. I&#8217;ve hit snag after snag from cultures that don&#8217;t work with Drupal&#8217;s flow. </p>
<p>The one workflow item that I really enjoyed hearing about what how Mother Jones is using Drupal&#8217;s features to create more of a community through online readers and potential contributors. Mother Jones wants to be able to share investigative journalism online where the community can help steer the conversations into solutions. The magazine added two little flags in Drupal where the comment can be a recommended solution or a documented result on behalf of the problem. </p>
<p>In the end, I got the feeling that the room was full of people bursting to talk about journalism and how we can find really great solutions for the industry&#8230; and the possibility that Drupal is one of those solutions. One person asked if Drupal was a fad&#8230; I mentioned that statement on Twitter. <a href="http://www.benshoemate.com/" target="_blank">Ben Shoemate</a>, who I finally met in person after talking on Twitter, mentioned to me that he felt that question was a bit dramatic. The real question is this: Do these newsrooms all expect to switch content management systems every two years? That&#8217;s when I really figured out why we&#8217;re doing all of this.</p>
<p>We are looking for solid CMS that is flexible enough to do what we want it to do today and what we&#8217;ll want it to do tomorrow. And if it isn&#8217;t flexible enough tomorrow, it needs to be able to export all of its data easily to prevent an ugly CMS divorce. That&#8217;s what matters. It doesn&#8217;t matter if Drupal or WordPress or Django are the fads. What matters more is if we don&#8217;t like the CMS, we can export, get out and move on without losing data.</p>
<p>So that&#8217;s where the question of output of web content that can go right into the print system becomes very important. If you can export web content to go into a newspaper, then you can export all of your content into archives or into an alternate CMS.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to hear what you think!
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